OK, I know it's been run into the ground almost, but...CALLING ALL LISSIE EXPERTS!

**carolinapooh** · July 19th, 2005, 07:38 PM

I?d like to gather opinions yet AGAIN. I?ve searched through MANY MANY posts using the search engine and gotten valuable restoration advice, but not what I?m really looking for.

Felicity simply MUST be bought. I can?t wait any longer. So here?s my question: pre- or post-Mattel (or at least a bit older than the brand-new ones)? When it comes to Lissie, I don?t know what the pros and cons are.

And what was it about the hair ? one is brighter than the other? Which one? I?m all confused but excited too!

**mayergirl** · July 19th, 2005, 07:49 PM

Frankly, I'd buy her now from Mattel. The clothes they're making now are smaller, and we know more Lissie stuff is coming out soon. You wouldn't want to have a brand new doll that didn't fit her own clothes. So, as much as I love my PM Lissie, I have to recommend getting her straight from AG.

**robin0850** · July 19th, 2005, 08:07 PM

The following is absolutely JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION,(so please don't anyone take umbrage):

I believe the Pre-Mattel Felicities to be infinitely superior to the newer dolls. Try for the earlier '90's dolls with the bright coppery-red hair, before it was muted to a reddish-brown. Her eyes will less of a glaring green, and more natural-looking; cheeks will be plumper and hair thicker, with more lifelike texture. Her complexion will be peachier, her body will be a little thicker, more "little girl-like", and less skinny. I could go on and on, so if you need more details, just "PM" me... [img]smile.gif[/img]

All these differences are relative, but added together, they seem to total up to a much higher-quality doll. If you look carefully on e-bay and find a nice one, it will be worth the higher cost for a doll you will want to keep for years. At least, that's how I feel about MY PM Felicity!
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**wicksasc** · July 19th, 2005, 08:08 PM

In my opinion, early PM outdoes every other Felicity. She has the bright red hair and rounder face(like my avatar). Many of the other PM versions have the round face, but she only had bright red hair for the first 2(?) years. The later versions have "auburn" hair which if I didn't know any better I would just call BROWN. She is still beautiful, but doesn't have red hair which I think Felicity should have.

The following links are photos I have taken of the front and back view of the early and recent felicity go to:

http://www.geocities.com/wicksasc/86_two_front.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/wicksasc/86_two_back.jpg

**wicksasc** · July 19th, 2005, 08:09 PM

I have several Felicity dolls right now both Pre and Post Mattel. If you want more photos PM me.
~Stacie

**Princess_Lyndsi** · July 19th, 2005, 08:19 PM

I personally like the Mattel Felicitys better than those that are PM. For some reason, I think she looks better with brownish-red than the copper hair. And even though some people think her emerald eyes are freaky, I like them. [img]smile.gif[/img]

**lscogbill** · July 19th, 2005, 08:55 PM

If you're going to get Elizabeth, I would see if AG is going to offer a BFF set like they do for Sam and Nellie. Also, if all of these people have difficulty telling the difference between PM and Mattel, the differences can't be that great. If, however, you are buying this doll as a collector's item that you want to increase in value, then I would go for a good PM Lissie. Good luck!

**carolinapooh** · July 19th, 2005, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by wicksasc:
In my opinion, early PM outdoes every other Felicity. She has the bright red hair and rounder face(like my avatar). Many of the other PM versions have the round face, but she only had bright red hair for the first 2(?) years. The later versions have "auburn" hair which if I didn't know any better I would just call BROWN. She is still beautiful, but doesn't have red hair which I think Felicity should have.

The following links are photos I have taken of the front and back view of the early and recent felicity go to:

http://www.geocities.com/wicksasc/86_two_front.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/wicksasc/86_two_back.jpg

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">WOW!!! Look at the hair difference. I always picture Felicity with BRIGHT red hair.

She doesn't have that so much anymore!

You can also tell a difference in her "size" ('scuse me, PM Lissie!) - PM is definitely a bit chunkier. You can notice this by "back" shot; the right arm of the PM Felicity really appears thicker than the Mattel one, even when you "adjust" it for perspective.

<font color="#051E50" size="1">[ July 19, 2005 07:03 PM: Message edited by: mollymom ]</font>

**Shawniec** · July 19th, 2005, 10:22 PM

I just wanted to add that I have an older Lissie who is not old enough to have the bright red hair. I love her to pieces anyway, but it was bothering me that all of her Mattel clothes make her look like she is bursting at the seams (she can't even raise her arms in the traveling gown, and forget about putting on the "pannier" part of her undergarments set), so I asked my SIL to pick up a new Lissie for me at the MCM sale. I definitely plan on keeping both of them. Someday I hope to have the time to make clothes just for my PM Lissie [img]wink.gif[/img] .
Good luck in making your decision.

Shawn